Improving Science & Restoring Trust in Public Health | Dr. Jay Bhattacharya

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My guest is Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, MD, PhD, Director of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and Professor Emeritus of Health Policy at Stanford University. We discuss which scientific questions ought to be the priority for NIH, how to incentivize bold, innovative science especially from younger labs, how to solve the replication crisis and restore trust and transparency in science and public health, including acknowledging prior failures by the NIH. We discuss the COVID-19 pandemic and the data and sociological factors that motivated lockdowns, masking and vaccine mandates. Dr. Bhattacharya shares his views on how to resolve the vaccine–autism debate and how best to find the causes and cures for autism and chronic diseases. The topics we cover impact everyone: male, female, young and old and, given that NIH is the premier research and public health organization in the world, extend to Americans and non-Americans alike.

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  • James Watson: American molecular biologist, known for structure of DNA, Nobel laureate
  • Francis Crick: English molecular biologist, known for structure of DNA, Nobel laureate
  • Rosalind Franklin: British chemist, x-ray crystallographer, known for structure of DNA
  • Torsten Wiesel: Swedish neurophysiologist, Nobel laureate
  • David Hubel: American-Canadian neurophysiologist, Nobel laureate
  • Vannevar Bush: American engineer, inventor, science administrator
  • Monica Bertagnolli: former director of the National Institutes of Health (NIH)
  • Ben Barres: neurobiologist, Stanford University
  • Linda Buck: Professor, Fred Hutch Cancer Center, Nobel laureate
  • Richard Axel: Professor of Pathology & Biochemistry, Columbia University, Nobel laureate
  • Karl Popper: British philosopher of natural and social science
  • John Hennessy: former Stanford University President
  • Sunetra Gupta: Professor of Theoretical Epidemiology, University of Oxford
  • Martin Kulldorff: epidemiologist, biostatistician, founding Fellow at Hillsdale College’s Academy for Science and Freedom
  • Scott Atlas: Senior Fellow in Scientific Philosophy & Public Policy, Hoover Institution of Stanford University
  • Anthony Fauci: former Chief Medical Advisor to the US President
  • Trofim Lysenko: Soviet agriculturalist and biologist, known for Lysenkoism
  • Edward Ross: Professor of Economics, Stanford University
  • H. Bruce Franklin: Professor of English, Stanford University
  • Michael Levitt: Professor of Cancer Research, Stanford University
  • Robert F. Kennedy Jr.: United States Secretary of Health and Human Services
  • Marty Makary: United States Commissioner of Food and Drug Administration

About this Guest

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya

Jay Bhattacharya, MD, PhD, is Director of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and Professor Emeritus of Health Policy at Stanford University.

  • 00:00:00 Jay Bhattacharya
  • 00:06:56 National Institutes of Health (NIH), Mission
  • 00:09:12 Funding, Basic vs. Applied Research
  • 00:18:22 Sponsors: David & Eight Sleep
  • 00:21:20 Indirect Costs (IDC), Policies & Distribution
  • 00:30:43 Taxpayer Funding, Journal Access, Public Transparency
  • 00:38:14 Taxpayer Funding, Patents; Drug Costs in the USA vs Other Countries
  • 00:48:50 Reducing Medication Prices; R&D, Improving Health
  • 01:00:01 Sponsors: AG1 & Levels
  • 01:02:55 Lowering IDC?, Endowments, Monetary Distribution, Scientific Groupthink
  • 01:12:29 Grant Review Process, Innovation
  • 01:21:43 R01s, Tenure, Early Career Scientists & Novel Ideas
  • 01:31:46 Sociology of Grant Evaluation, Careerism in Science, Failures
  • 01:39:08 “Sick Care” System, Health Needs
  • 01:44:01 Sponsor: LMNT
  • 01:45:33 Incentives in Science, H-Index, Replication Crisis
  • 01:58:54 Scientists, Data Fraud, Changing Careers
  • 02:03:59 NIH & Changing Incentive Structure, Replication, Pro-Social Behavior
  • 02:15:26 Scientific Discovery, Careers & Changing Times, Journals & Publications
  • 02:19:56 NIH Grants & Appeals, Under-represented Populations, DEI
  • 02:28:58 Inductive vs Deductive Science; DEI & Grants; Young Scientists & NIH Funding
  • 02:39:38 Grant Funding, Identity & Race; Shift in NIH Priorities
  • 02:51:23 Public Trust & Science, COVID Pandemic, Lockdowns, Masks
  • 03:04:41 Pandemic Mandates & Economic Inequality; Fear; Public Health & Free Speech
  • 03:13:39 Masks, Harms, Public Health Messaging, Uniformity, Groupthink, Vaccines
  • 03:22:48 Academic Ostracism, Public Health Messaging & Opposition
  • 03:30:26 Culture of American Science, Discourse & Disagreement
  • 03:36:03 Vaccines, COVID Vaccines, Benefits & Harms
  • 03:47:05 Vaccine Mandates, Money, Public Health Messaging, Civil Liberties
  • 03:54:52 COVID Vaccines, Long-Term Effects; Long COVID, Vaccine Injury, Flu Shots
  • 04:06:47 Do Vaccines Cause Autism?; What Explains Rise in Autism
  • 04:18:33 Autism & NIH; MAHA & Restructuring NIH?
  • 04:25:47 Zero-Cost Support, YouTube, Spotify & Apple Follow & Reviews, Sponsors, YouTube Feedback, Protocols Book, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter

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