Bringing Extinct Species Back to Life | Dr. Beth Shapiro

Dr. Beth Shapiro, PhD, is an evolutionary biologist and Chief Science Officer at Colossal Biosciences. Her work focuses on de-extinction and wildlife conservation efforts. We discuss genetic differences among humans, and how ancient DNA and modern embryology are being used to de-extinct and protect woolly mammoths, dodo birds, and dire wolves, as well as to help conserve endangered species. We also explore the ethical implications of de-extinction and how synthetic biology can help build a more bio diverse and resilient world.

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  • Ernst Mayr: evolutionary biologist, species-concept pioneer
  • Carolus Linnaeus: botanist, taxonomist
  • Richard Green: professor of biomolecular engineering, UC Santa Cruz; paleogenomics
  • Svante Pääbo: director, Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology; paleogeneticist
  • Sergey Zimov: Arctic ecologist; founder of Pleistocene Park
  • Nikita Zimov: director of Pleistocene Park and Northeast Science Station; Arctic ecologist
  • Richard Harland: professor of genetics, genomics, evolution, and development, UC Berkeley
  • Ben Lamm: co-founder and CEO, Colossal Biosciences
  • Elinor Karlsson: director of vertebrate genomics, Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard
  • Leslie Vosshall: vice president and chief scientific officer, Howard Hughes Medical Institute
  • Antonio Regalado: senior editor, biomedicine, MIT Technology Review
  • Bridgett vonHoldt: professor of ecology and evolutionary biology, Princeton University
  • Alan Cooper: evolutionary genomics researcher
  • Allan C. Wilson: molecular evolution pioneer
  • Howard Hughes: aviator, engineer, philanthropist
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  • 00:00:00 Beth Shapiro
  • 00:02:35 What is a Species?, Taxonomy, Bison
  • 00:09:13 Neanderthals, Denisovans, Homo Sapiens
  • 00:12:38 Sponsors: Joovv & Eight Sleep
  • 00:15:27 Hybrid Ancestry, “Grolar” Bears
  • 00:20:30 Homo Sapiens & Neanderthal Interbreeding, Genes; Denisovans
  • 00:25:53 Neanderthal Genes, Immunity, Red Hair; Eye Color
  • 00:30:17 De-Extinction, Species Selection, Woolly Mammoths
  • 00:38:08 Sponsor: AG1
  • 00:39:21 Bird De-Extinction, Dodo; Reproduction & Genes
  • 00:47:40 Development Biology, Woolly Mammoth, Elephants
  • 00:54:49 Dire Wolf, Synthetic Biology, Ethics
  • 01:03:26 De-Extinction, Ecology, Conservation, Ethics
  • 01:09:22 Ecosystem Resilience, Thylacine; Preventing Extinction, Quolls
  • 01:15:45 Sponsor: Function
  • 01:17:23 Modeling Ecological Impact, Mosquitoes, Gene Drives; Panthers
  • 01:25:50 Advisory Panels, Synthetic Biology Education
  • 01:29:13 Genetic Selection in Humans, Human-Shaped World
  • 01:38:25 Black-Footed Ferrets, Genetic Rescue
  • 01:47:05 Dire Wolf; Ecological Modeling, New Technology & Public Fear
  • 01:55:09 Artificial Wombs; Current Issues, Conservation & Red Wolf
  • 02:01:26 Science Pioneers; Colossal Public Education
  • 02:04:31 Beth’s Science Origin Story; Dinosaurs
  • 02:13:42 Zero-Cost Support, YouTube, Spotify & Apple Follow, Reviews & Feedback, Sponsors, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter

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